1/9/25

Correcting the Record on Past Videos: Biological Age Tests, Full Body MRI's & More

In this special New Year’s episode of the Optispan Podcast, Matt and Nick reflect on their goals for 2025, the direction of the podcast, and take the opportunity to clarify or correct statements from past episodes. The discussion begins with a candid look at personal and professional resolutions, including an increased focus on cardiovascular fitness, reconnecting with past colleagues, and upcoming book projects related to aging and longevity. The hosts also share their excitement for upcoming collaborations with Peter Attia and Thomas DeLauer, which promise fresh insights and dynamic discussions in the field of healthspan and longevity.

A major segment of the episode is dedicated to revisiting past discussions where clarification or correction is needed. First, they re-examine the costs and benefits of the Ezra whole-body MRI bundle, acknowledging an initial oversight regarding the inclusion of two MRIs in the package. They still express skepticism about the value proposition and the need to prepay for multiple scans without clear long-term benefits. Next, they revisit the DrugAge database, correcting a misinterpretation about its scope. The database primarily includes drugs that have demonstrated at least one positive effect on lifespan, rather than cataloging all tested compounds, including those with neutral or negative effects.

The conversation also dives into biological age testing, a topic that generated significant audience feedback. Matt and Nick discuss Matt’s recent self-experiment comparing different epigenetic tests and the variation in results. They clarify concerns raised by True Diagnostic regarding their methodology and reinforce their stance that current direct-to-consumer biological age tests lack precision and reliability. They caution listeners about over-reliance on these tests for health decisions and emphasize the importance of considering multiple health markers instead of a single biological age score.

Another key topic is the balance of conversation between hosts and guests. Matt responds to audience feedback about the dialogue format, explaining his preference for engaging, back-and-forth discussions rather than traditional structured interviews. He affirms his commitment to maintaining an interactive and exploratory format while also ensuring guests have ample opportunity to share their expertise. Additionally, they address criticisms regarding the inclusion of health influencers and non-scientist guests, defending their approach to featuring a diverse range of perspectives while maintaining scientific rigor.

Finally, the episode touches on reaction videos and the role they play in public discussions around longevity science. They acknowledge critiques of the format but argue that when done responsibly, reaction videos serve as a valuable tool for providing context, correcting misinformation, and fostering meaningful dialogue. Wrapping up, Matt and Nick express their commitment to transparency, ongoing learning, and keeping the podcast a valuable resource for those interested in optimizing health and longevity.

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